Recently my guild went through a rather large bout of drama when a member/raider was fired due to many different reasons, and was removed from the guild. When I really started thinking about it there are 3 major things you shouldn’t do when either asked to leave a guild, or when you leave a guild on your own.
Trash Your Former Guild
This is by and far the WORST thing you could possibly do, because in the end you’re only going to make yourself look like a childish ass.
Even if you leave the guild because it was a horrible place that abused all their members, and never progressed you should still NEVER trash talk your former guild. No one will look at the argument and think, “Thank God someone warned me about <insert guild name here>, I was thinking about joining!”
It’ll go more along the line of “Who the <expletive> is this <expletive>, and why is he/she talking?” You’ll then be subjected to trolls.
More over if you were kicked out of a guild for being a/an <expletive> then your complaining will make you seem like even more of a/an <expletive>.
Join The Next Guild To Offer You A Spot
If you left a guild or were kicked out, you should probably take a moment to be “single”. Unless of course you left to join another guild, at which point you can skip this section.
Staying “single” gives you the time to look for a new guild that really fits who and what you are looking for, since clearly the previous was not.
Which these days is easier than ever since you have access to a whole list of guilds that are advertising openings.
Try To Push Your Old Guilds Rules
Ok so you’ve not trashed your old guild, you’ve stayed single for long enough to find a new guild, what now?
Well I can tell you what not to do:
- Don’t be too forward, it can be seen as annoying and pushy.
- Don’t try to be promoted right away, not cool.
- Don’t try to shove your old guild down your new guilds throat. Don’t talk about the rules, the other people, the events/raids they’ve done. It makes you seem like you don’t like your new guild as much as your old guild.
So guys please, I know that things happen, and members get kicked out or leave guilds, but try to be civil about it.
/Cheers
Hi,
I think #1 is appropriate, when done properly, and when your opinion is asked on such a thing.
For example, if you have a friend who is thinking of applying to said guild and they ask you about your time there, I think you have every right to talk about what went wrong, as long as you do so in a mature light.
I think there’s nothing wrong with saying “I left for these reasons,” or “The guild just wasn’t right for me because ___ .”
With that said, I have often compared being in a guild to being in a relationship, and I think a lot of the same rules on how to cope with one type of relationship ending applies to the other. Sometimes it doesn’t end well and people are hurt and they lash out. I’m not saying it’s right, but it does happen.
It’s not always “I’m bashing you because I hate you and I want to make you look bad,” but more “I’m hurt and upset about this, so I’m going to be angry and express it that way.”
Oestrus I agree that if you’re talking to a friend about it, that of course feel free to speak your mind. My statement was more intended for interaction in the WoW community.
This is some great advise, and as a guild leader, if someone is really trash talking their guild, I tend to wonder if the problem was with the player and not the group.
And obviously I’m bossy, because I’m the boss of the guild, if you come in telling me how I need to change things, it’s just going to piss me off.
But that’s just me right?
That last one…yes.
A little bit of constructive criticism, or “have you tried this? I’ve seen it work,” is fine, but when every other statement you make starts with “Well, in my old guild…” you’re going to get on people’s nerves. Or at least mine.
Definitely some good things to keep in mind. I remember personally when I failed to follow #s 2 and 3. I was in the top-progressed guild on my server, and when we stopped raiding, I immediately jumped into the next-highest guild, which was still a significant drop-off. It was bad. I didn’t like that they couldn’t progress like my old guild, they didn’t like that I (sometimes inadvertently, other times not so much) kept hinting at that…it didn’t end well.
I have long felt that the main reason I’ve had a lot of success in my current guild is that I really made a point to follow #3 when I joined. Lo and behold, when I went out of my way to not be a pain in the rear, I got along well with most of the guild, and then they were perfectly willing to listen when I had suggestions.